Is the blood literal blood? and my doctorate, which while earned, not bestowed, is not really the same thing as those true academic doctorates. And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, I think somehow youre not getting that from a plain reading of the Bible, that youre getting it from traditions of men and theories of cranks, but thats just me. It just didnt seem right. I find it interesting tho that Jeremiah (and guys like him) is blasted for holding a pre-trib / pre-millennial view by people who generally hold to an allegorical interpretation of Scripture. He is the senior pastor of Shadow Mountain Community Church in El Cajon, California. I need to think more on it. But it actually may be Biblical and isnt a full mouth kiss. I think God meant that. Obviously, I am not serious about the number. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGMnSimO2xMa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGMnSimO2xM. Thanks for talking down to me. If it does not, then according to the rest of Scripture God has not spoken through Paul and we might as well throw our Bible in the trash and go watch TV. So now let us make a covenant with our God to send away all these wives and their children, according to the counsel of my lord and of those who tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law. The Health and Wealth Gospel: The Worst Pyramid Scheme Ever. Additionally, David also hosts Television programs like David Jeremiah and Revealing Mysteries of Heaven.. @ Gram3: In a memo from Kevin Small to Jamie Munson at Mars Hill. They were joyous in being able to celebrate His holy word and adopt His statutes. may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: Col 1:26 :-p, And Matt Chandler can be Walter Skinner. At the time, locusts would have been symbolic of armies which literally, in the Biden sense, devoured the land. Notice: Due to lack of interest, Armageddon has been canceled. He may be saying things are going to be way worse than can be imagined in various ways. So how should they equate a wifes submission to that of Jesus submission? Youre living a life that the ancients couldnt even dream existed? Heb 2:9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone. Personally, it has made a big difference in my life to live with hope, without this giant cloud of the tribulation looming in the future. Ok, maybe not that last bit, but it does grind my gears when pastors of the conservative evangelical persuasion make light of serious questions like that. I dont know about the oil idea and why he took that up, but isnt DTS some sort of mecca for dispensationalism? My friend Robert Morgan flew into New Orleans several years ago, and the man who met him at the airport was a geophysicist for a major oil company. Calvinism is so easy to disbelieve. He says right there that the tribulation would not be equaled by any other event(s) in the history of the world. and **lean NOT unto thine own understanding. So why would that be? You are not getting that from a plain reading of the Bible. I tried again the next week, and I realized as I listened to Jeremiah read a lengthy passage, and I mean for 10 or 15 minutes, he was reading his own book, calledAgents of the Apocalypse. as well as the Tanakh, what is now sometimes called the oral Torah, etc. For we are the temple of the living God (2 Corinthians 14-16a). I do not believe that Paul was anything more nor less than Hellenized, though at the same time, devout. He currently resides in Toledo. As Jamieson Commentary says of the above verse. So I ended up with a useless degree, and the frustration that goes with that. I hope he gets in on this discussion. But, my Plain Reading of scripture has changed over the years. You know, the one that starts out with Hello, my name is Kent Hovind. The second doctorate is published as a book What On Earth Is About To HappenFor Heavens Sake?. However, unverified sources speculate that she is in her seventies. , @ Dr. Fundystan, Proctologist: Agreed that is utterly irrelevant and in some ways rather convenient and yes that is the hope of some developers. And Give to you the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation. That is why I prefer to major on the majors and have some fun discussing the minors. When it comes to Revelation, I need to try to focus on the Big Picture which is that Jesus is coming again, visibly, and he will utterly defeat his enemies, and those of us who are in him will live in the Fathers house forever. They themselves are equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight. Just another greedy narcissistic crackpot using the name of God to make themselves rich without producing anything good the Kardashians of Kristianity. And then the whole idea that with the Lord, 1000 years is as a day, and a day is 1000 years, so there were 2000 years [2 days] from Adam to Abraham, 2000 [2 days] to Christ, 2000 [2 days] to the second coming in 2000 A.D. but the Gregorian calendar is 4 years off, then there is a 7 year tribulation, so the tribulation starts in 1989. Because THAT was also The Plain Reading of SCRIPTURE(TM). Or a few billion years is also pretty plausible. That inability to move on is a gift from God to you.You see through his eyes when you hurt for others. Did I not read somewhere that there exists a seed smaller than a mustard seed? There are some that believe that their is the spirit of the Antichrist in all ages, starting with Nero. Our theme song could be Well Not Fly Away, oh glory, Well not fly away!. At least, I think thats what youre getting at, and I agree. At the time I used to give such issues lots of thought, to get a strictly egalitarian view would have meant going to theological liberals or dodgy charismatics. Well, if youre ready, lets start. Plus any movie by Hitchcock. Literature 3 Answers How much is bariwise worth? I choose to be master/mistress, fitting the Dumpty part quite nicely if I do say so myself. Only the ones without facial hair Actually, in my tribe its more like a holy chest bump, Doug 3) In 1982 he started Turning Point Ministries for radio then branching into TV which allows the Gospel Message to be heard daily by millions. He is from Toledo, U.S. David is famous for starting the Turning Point Radio show. Michael Baggott is a TV personality and a professional antique. I dont know nor do you. The house is decorated with a mix of traditional and contemporary furnishings, and the couple have a passion for art, which is evident in the many paintings and sculptures that are on display. Her beliefs are not even close to being evangelical, born-again Christian. Ken Ham & Hal Lindsay (and their followers) are THE poster children for reading the Poem Truth of early Genesis and all Revelation as Math Truth. Is there no gravitas? He is the Head of all things, if we take Bereshit which is the Hebrew for Genesis literally. I know that is ironic coming from me. Dr Warren Throckmorton The wealth amassed by David Jeremiah. World doesnt mean world. RE: End Times discussion I should probably add Thriller with Boris Karloff. I remember one episode from the first season. Is this book based on Ellen Whites visions? As do I appreciate all viewpoints expressed here. This is why Id rather be watching original Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or perhaps Night Gallery episodes. The Orthodox deal with this very differently than most in the Western church, and I think they have a better grasp of it than we do. What if the question becomes Who is The Beginning?. When it comes to art history, Ive got nothing. His books include The Book of Signs, The Book of Hope, and The Book of Life. And definitely subject to change, Its the things Ive learned after I knew it ALL In late 1998, the pastor underwent surgery to remove and transplant his deformities. Something about having the loudest mouth on the block. There are many ways David Jeremiah has become wealthy. Even with a father who is knowledgeable enough about the subject to address my fears, I STILL feel the anxiety rise when this topic comes up. The fact that he is a shill for TBN, and part of the xian/industrial complex is reason to hold him up for scrutiny. If you just do a body count, by then there just arent that many people left on the planet. The net worth of David Jeremiah was last estimated in 2023 and was found to be $55 million. I envy Driscoll and his ilk, they can slaughter and move on, I have never been able to do that, to my eternal shame, if there was a reason to show why God hates my eternal soul, there is none. 4) Put all the above together in a Good Cop/Bad Cop situation, shake well, and you have achieved a Christianese version of Nihilism Its All Gonna Burn (especially YOU! Why cant Jesus just have meant exactly what He said? @ Corbin: I have a strange crush on creepyness. @Todd, The building is now worth more than $2.4-million and hasn't been sold since Jeremiah's contract purchase. Finally, brethren, I think the bible will not yield its treasures to those who are not prepared to put time and effort into studying it. Heres a good one. There have been lots of overreactions and over-interpretations of events. David Jeremiah teams up with Osteen and Meyerat the big Jump Start conference in Chicago this May. Hopefully we are open enough (loving?) Since 2010, Turning Point has spent about $20-million a year on broadcasting costs. That comes to nearly $200-million in the past decade alone. I doubt very much whether it will take any courage at all to ask how God did it all, nor should it. She does have a point though when you get to subjects such as the second advent (or foreknowledge and predestination, genealogies ). Well unfortunately the Knowledge of Good and Evil is not the same as wisdom, so my truck has decided to practice separation from me, since I am a reprobate. Any standard work on the Puritans outlines it in painful detsil. I mean that without irony, and I appreciate your decent tone here. He describes some very specific mechanical actions there that have nothing what so ever to do with any theological interpretation. Aquarians also need plenty of space and time on their own to reflect, form ideas, and plan their role in the revolution. You care and you cant move on. In the sense that comic books can be an amusing way to pass some time. In 2003, his book, My Hearts Desire, won the Gold Medallion Award for Best Inspirational Book. Yeah. Worse, is this message from Dr Jeremiah: On Easter Sunday, Turning Point Television will begin airing our new series, A.D. In a sense, the rosh or beginning of our Bible is Bereshit, or Genesis. He wrote Dr. Doctrines Christian Comix on the Trinity, probably the best comic book ever written on the concept of the Trinity. I agree, one should only publicly/professionally use the term Doctor if one has actually EARNED a doctorate and it has been conferred by an accredited institution which is authorized to confer PhDs and other legit doctorates (ie, DMA, EdD, etc). Doug wrote: Just wondering. Yet there was all kinds of scarystuff was rampant in ancient Greece. It could be #1, #2 or #3. And, we are in agreement when you write @ Headless Unicorn Guy: Mannkind will find a way to wage war regardless of means. Jennifer has two children, one boy, and a girl, and lives happily with her family in California. got onto my computer to see what his net worth is, & found it to be $25 million dollars. First, his words were an intentional show of support for an organization that has had its share of troubles the past few years and nearly went bankrupt in 2019. Here is one explanation. Email:[emailprotected] But for many years, their intellectual ancestors believed that it did indeed apply. And I said, Oh!! Agreed. Ill give three. Now, I did not grow up from youth with some of the teachings and suppositions some of you all did, so naturally some of what I say and how I say it may sound rather odd. Ive heard people say the Bible contains metaphorical non-historical parables that are not clearly identified as such. I just left a reply to your comment there. But likewise, I dont particularly need to see a lot of gore; in fact, more is nearly always less when it comes to gruesome imagery in a movie. @ Mark: Gory at times, though. The current Genderite obsession with Gods supposed displeasure with females teaching males will follow a similar trajectory, I think, and future generations will wonder who spiked the punch at the gospelly conference. I mean, the guys who do hug and kiss are mainly from societies that a pretty (often very) macho, so??? He also goes for a lot of gotcha! moments in that book gets everyone agreeing right along with him (as at the end of Romans 1 those terrible, terrible gentiles!) So all the aliens show off their various beliefs and at the end the humans are going to show their religious beliefs. Noone know how when or where the Second Coming will take place. I will open up open discussion and try it again. Cannot understand that any evangelist could be connected to Donald Trump. My apologies for any/all misunderstandings. Why do the French do it? Thats imo a game-changer from good will to intentional ignorance and/or laziness. This was my problem with Reformed theology. Dispensationalism as a system rose in popularity in the wake of the failure of postmillennialisms optimism given the events of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I was a member of a church which split because the pastor decided he would conduct the marriage of a black man and a white woman. When he lost his computer chip manufacturing job in 1998, he was able to live solely off the rental income from two of the houses, which by that time covered his paltry mortgage payments many times over. without appreciating New Wave, Cyberpunk and so on. I will pay for that, and I should. David Pawson. Test and Verification. Yes and no. But, referring to the Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and the end??? And Im pretty sure Im not the only one. Where did David Jeremiah grow up in Ohio? Lots of my questions are unanswered and probably always will be. I mean that without irony, and I appreciate your decent tone here. @ Doug: You originally gave a definition of The Beginning *assuming* it is referring to time When is The Beginning (the very start of everything we see, day zero). I dont apply the verse literally that a womans hair must not be shorn because a verse indicates it is their crown of glory. The public reading of the Scriptures was required by the law to be made every seventh year; but during the long period of the [Babylonian] captivity this excellent practice, with many others, had fallen into neglect, till revived, on this occasion. The married duo also produced The Son of God movie seen in theaters. Pastor at Shadow Mountain Community Church, a megachurch in California, who is also a Christian author and popular televangelist. I have come to understand, you cant win unless you have money, I agree with that, money is a consistent measure. That, of course, demonstrates nothing about the eternal relationship between Father and Son. When a man alleging to be an under-shepherd of the Lord hawks his book from the pulpit during Sunday service, presses the poor to sow a seed so TBN can continue promoting doctrines of devils, and when he pollutes his own stage with a necromancer, we must call a spade a spade and glorify the Lord by warning about Dr David Jeremiah. Makes no sense to me. How much of this net worth is ministry related? MICHAEL STANDS UP AND FIGHTS WITH SATAN AND SATAN IS CAST DOWN TO EARTH AT MID TRIB REV 12:10. Really liked that understanding of Pauls writings. it crossed denominational and theological boundaries. When a book is bought at the full retail price, Hale said. A.D. This rejection comes in different flavors. The mustard seed would probably have been more familiar than the tiniest strain of Orchid seed. My thinking on Our Discussion has been based on the following influences: From your side of the Pond, James Hurley wrote a book which went into great detail about male/female customs in both the OT and NT, and dealt extensively with the usual texts on this. William G. did that for me so that I could understand the EO view of original sin, and that was helpful to me. Changed everything about how I viewed that passage. Certainly, given the brittleness of modern society, that is quite possible. And the sealing of the believer by the Holy Spirit is a great source of comfort. Who cares? Armageddon WILL be entirely fought on horseback with swords. Einsteins quote probably referred to thermonuclear war, but I am inclined to think it might be a really bigand I mean fratboy bigsolar burp which would knock out communications and the electrical grid, etc. He went on to earn a Masters degree in Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary in 1967. He doesnt like creepy shows so he told me to watch it when hes not around. In fact, I recently told my husband I plan to watch through the series again. I was the original commenter who brought up DTSdont want to hijack this thread into too much about them. Certainly, we didnt have it all laid out for us in a series of best-selling books (if you can call them books). Contra the complementarians implication of linkage, the scarystuff that happened in ancient Greek culture did not happen because females had been liberated. Founder of Turning Point Ministries, David Jeremiah. It was a resort community overlooking the Pacific Ocean near San Diego. In retrospect, it was a lot like having a terminal disease. Daniel was in a relationship during their final year in his college. I thought (mistakenly) that you were referring to a view of Greek thought as a corrupting influence on the early church. @ Gram3: I remember him doing a series on 1 Cor 11 going into great detail over head-covering customs in the contemporary culture. Well, the concept of Original Sin does not exist in either Judaism or Islam. My apologies for any/all misunderstandings. This does read like a really bad sci fi movie. I had a friend who believed that Christians would go through the tribulation just like everyone else. But soon after the 2015 rule change, Turning Point Ministries returned as a member in good standing of the National Religious Broadcasters. My grandfather on one side was a conservative Lutheran who frowned at physical affection and other things. I appreciate the foundation laid for Western reasoning by the Greeks, among other things, and I think it has been beneficial when blended with the Kingdom thought of Jesus. Is there no place one can bask in unadulterated holy scripture and not be pressed into buying something associated with it? Whenever someone constructs an ad hoc argument, it tends to look ad hoc and tends to be unpersuasive to people who are able and ready to think. Your point about the audience is an important one. When that happens, the book gets noticed: Its not about how many you sell; its about how fast they go through the sale programs so they get noticed. How are we supposed to be happy disappearing while the people left here are experiencing catastrophe. Personally, it has made a big difference in my life to live with hope, without this giant cloud of the tribulation looming in the future. If you are born again, then there shouldnt be any dread regarding the tribulation and certainly not any lack of hope. I certainly wouldnt go to a source that denies the authority of the Bible or who deny the fundamentalsin the original sense of the termof the faith. So, if the mustard seed was the smallest seed, as generally known, then Jesus statement makes sense and is not a contradiction. In the interview Jeremiah flatly said that the duo creates shows that honor the word of God and doesnt pervert it. It made it much easier for organizations like Jeremiahs to be a member. Writing a review on there is a good idea. After three years of completing his education, the pastor started the Blackhawk Baptist Church. I loved the X Files.
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